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  1. Rita
    June 29, 2012

    Oh, I’m too tired with all that vibrating to think, now……….

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  2. Som
    September 7, 2012

    Homeopathy is a substitute treatment method . But this treatment method sometimes works better than any other treatment method .People talk about the treatment method and they say that Homeopathy doctors do not properly diagnosis patients .But this is completely wrong . The way to diagnose is surely different as the treatment method is different . It takes long to to cure a patient but it really cures from the root of a disease . I saw a woman who had infection in her toes and doctors advised her to operate .But , she didn’t .She went for homeopathy treatment and this is really amazing that after one year of complete treatment she survived from the disease .

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    • skeptvet
      September 7, 2012

      The problem is that there is no evidence for those claims. Homeopathy hasn’t been demonstrated to work, homeopathic diagnostic methods make no sense and haven’t proven reliable, and given these facts there’s no reason to believe homeopathy even understands the root of disease correctly much less cures it. I could just as easily say I have a magic invisible dragon in my garage which lkeeps my safe from tuberculosis, and since I’ve never gotten tuberculosis it must be true. Just repeating these things without meaningful scientific evidence doesn’t make them true. That’s the difference between science-based medicine and faith-based medicine.

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      • Linda
        September 16, 2017

        Believe it or not……there are many unexplainable things in this world. Science isn’t end all facts. Or else they wouldn’t keep changing their minds wether you can eat eggs or not, ect. Eyes wide open is a better frame of mind, not skepticism.

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      • skeptvet
        September 17, 2017

        Sure, we clearly do not understand everything, and it is likely we can’t understand some things. That doesn’t make giving up or making stuff up useful or reliable choices. Science is incomplete and imperfect, it’s just better than the alternatives.

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  3. Nan Haney
    February 21, 2016

    The problem with the JRS study, and with most scientific approaches to dowsing is that the conditions of the study turn on the logical mind. Dowsing mind vaporizes as soon as I convert to words and logic.
    I dowse 6,650 homeopathic remedies for similimum. Up until the last two cases, all of these produced one “yes”. After 20 hours of “no’s”, this is very impressive!
    Once I dowsed a women who had told me of her many complaints. Then, without telling her the remedy, I suggested that she dowse for it herself, and as she wanted to do it, I supplied her with the list. A couple weeks later I asked her if she had gotten Verbena hastata. She did a double-take, and said in wonder, “I think that’s what it was.” Later when I ran into her she confirmed that she had dowsed the same remedy that I had.
    I’ve been doing this for only a couple years, but so far I find that the first similimum I picked out for myself was right on. I feel it was correct because of Herring’s laws and because of how it ended. I dowsed not to repeat, and all of a sudden had an increase in vitality. I went up to a high energy level, and the first similimum was no longer similimum, so I dowsed the list and a new similimum came up. That’s where I’m at now. Non-similimums, whether herbal, allopathic, or homeopathic, rob you of your vitality so I now refuse to take anything but what I dowse as similimum.

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    • skeptvet
      February 22, 2016

      The problem here is that when you start informing medical therapies with entirely subjective mystical concepts like “dowsing mind” and claim that things cannot be tested scientifically, you have left medicine and entered the realm of religion. There is no difference between this sort of claim and those made for why psychic phenomena, astrology, or religious experiences should be accepted as real despite the complete inability to demonstrate their reality through objective means. You are, of course, entitled to whatever beliefs you choose, but you shouldn’t be entitled to deceive people into thinking what you are offering is medicine when it is really a form of faith healing founded in a spiritual reality you define for yourself, not the physical reality we all share.

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  4. Stephen Melody
    December 21, 2023

    Hi Skeptvet.
    I have a few comments to make if you have time to read them. You have used second hand data to make the claim that dowsing does not perform any better than chance. All the water dowsers that have been tested have, on average, produced such results. The trouble is that these tests were conducted on models of the real thing – not in real life situations. Dowsers were asked to identify which water pipe buried under the ground (beside other pipes with no flowing water) had water running through it. Other experiments required dowsers to find plastic bottles filled with water but hidden from view and distinguish them from plastic bottles that just contained sand. Dowsers could only produce correct results in such experiments equivalent to chance. The conclusion from such experiments is that dowsing does not work any better than chance which was the correct conclusion. The experimenters then extrapolated their findings to the real world situation of finding water in cracks in rocks deep underground, saying that dowsers are unable to find underground water at a rate any better than chance. This was their error. Every scientist knows that the results obtained from experiments on models cannot be extrapolated. This is because the variables (factors that can affect the experimental outcome) in the model situation and real life situation are different. If you want to test a dowser on their ability to find underground water, drill a hole where they say water is and another one a yard away where they say there is no water. To the best of my scientific knowledge, such an experiment has not been conducted and so the skeptics have no valid data on which to base their argument.
    I am a professional water dowser in a very dry continent where underground water is scarce. Here, water dowsing is a valuable skill needed to allow landholders to achieve water security. I find underground streams of water on a map of the landholder’s property. I then visit the property and pinpoint the best location for a well to be drilled . 40% of properties I map dowse result in a no-drill recommendation because either there are no streams on the property, the streams have gone dry, the water is too salty, the streams are too narrow for the driller to hit, the streams are too deep, the water volume is too low, or the aquifer supplying the stream is an unreliable water source. The other 60% get drilled. To date, 99% of these drilled wells have been cased and are in production. If I was unable to produce such results, I would not still be in business today. I provide no explanation for how dowsing works, I just know it works. I need you to know that we tend to do things that work, but don’t necessarily understand. One day in the future, we may come up with a valid explanation for the dowsing reaction. In the mean time, I will continue helping landholders to obtain water security irrespective of what skeptics say.

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    • skeptvet
      December 22, 2023

      Sorry, but your understanding of how the scientific method works is inaccurate and, not surprisingly, biased in favor of your beliefs. All controlled scientific studies are conducted under “controlled” conditions, meaning some of the complexity of the “real world” is excluded. This does not mean that none of the results are applicability to more complex situations. if that were true, science would be useless and no better t predicting the behavior of nature than the kind of uncontrolled anecdotal experience you rely on. The reality is that science does a MUCH better job of accurately predicting how the world works than anecdote. In a couple of centuries we have understood and changed nature, for the better and for the worse, much more effectively than in all the thousands of years we rely on guesswork and anecdote.

      It is true that some studies may not be applicable to some situations due to specific differences between test conditions and the specific context of that situation. Studies done in very sick, old, white men, for example, may not be as accurate in predicting the effects of a medical treatment on young, healthy, African American women as would studies that included that population. However, this is not a reason to simply ignore any study that doesn’t perfectly match the conditions of your anecdotal experience. And even such perfect studies are often far more reliable than anecdote and personal belief.

      If you view were followed, we would universally ignore scientific evidence because it never perfectly reproduces reality. That would take us back to the millennia before the scientific method was developed, and that would clearly be a mistake. You bear the burden of proving your claims about dowsing, and simply stating your anecdotal experiences isn’t reliable or sufficient evidence. If you have an idea for a better study design, by all means present that to scientists with the proper training and expertise to conduct a study, and even better use some of the money you earn doing something that resembles magic far more than science to fund those studies. If you are right, the evidence will be that much more convincing to skeptics. If the study proves you wrong, though, will you admit it, or will nothing eve meet your standards of evidence or change your mind? If that is true, than you are promoting something indistinguishable from religion and reliant only on faith.

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