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  1. Art
    June 11, 2013

    Anyone know about the use of Adequan use in Europe for people with arthritis? If it really works for horses and dogs and is FDA approved where are the FDA quality human studies that support it’s use for arthritis in humans?

    Art Malernee Dvm

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  2. RumpyDog!
    June 12, 2013

    Thank you so much for this post! I have a dog and a cat suffering from arthritis. The dog was offered Vetprofen, glucosamine and cold laser therapy. The cat was offered short-term pain meds and then glucosamine. I think I will decline the cold therapy. I bought a joint supplement. I’ll probably not use it past this first bottle.

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    • David Walker
      February 25, 2019

      I have a 2 year old pit bull he is a rescue I have no idea what he did for first 8 months of his life. He weight 14 lbs at 8 months when I got him off the streets of new Orleans around 1 yr old he was playing now around 50 lbs running up and down the yard he pulled up.lame went to vet torn acl
      Drugs and keep him settle helped but 4 months in he has rabbits race across yard he pulls away from leash this time tears the other knees vet blames it on poor diet as a puppy now hes on opioids daily along with 2 other meds all to keep him settled down he had bern clicking makeing noises last 8 months he now approach 2 1/2 yrs old. He started adequan treatments 2 months ago after one shot clicking has gone he moves easier he springs up from floor now he has done the first 8 shot in on month program is now on once a month I think we will adjust to every 3 weeks as I have seen him settle down being less bouncy after 3 weeks. For this dog it has changes his quality of life for the better. It seems it could help many animals the first series my vet offered easy in and out just get the shot an go with meds it ran about 34 bucks meds and vet so it cost 300 bucks for a 80 lb dog it goes by weight. Hes been able to drop off of other meds so he lives a more real dogs life not doped stupid 24/7

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      • Mary ann
        March 3, 2019

        I have been using Adequan on horses for years and love the results! Have started using it on older dogs Again I love the results

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      • Jim Mitchum
        April 13, 2019

        You got that right. Been racing horses for over 50 years and Adaquan and
        Legend are part of the top trainers routine. Cortisone has a short term effect and is very corrosive
        Jim Mitchum

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  3. v.t.
    June 12, 2013

    Skeptvet and Art, do you have an opinion on the use of Adequan in cats? Are you using it in practice for felines?

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    • skeptvet
      June 13, 2013

      There is, as Art points out, limited evidence to support it. There are not, unfortunately, a lot of good options for cats with chronic arthritis, so in cases that seem to warrant some intervention, I do discuss it along with meloxicam and other analgesics. I have used it in a few cases and have not been blown away but a subjective impression that it works, but of course I’m not confident that is a reliable guide anyway. As always, I believe the urgency of treatment and the uncertainty about the treatment need to be balanced, and in the case of arthritis in cats when the urgency is high enough, I don’t think it’s inappropriate to try therapies with poor supporting evidence so long as the client is made aware of the uncertainty involved.

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    • MW
      November 4, 2018

      I just started using it Friday, 2 days ago, and my cat is better already, playing and romping in the evening. It’s the first of many injections to come but it looks good so far.

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  4. Art
    June 12, 2013

    I do not use it. Would love to know whatDavid Remey dvm says about it for horses. I used it for about ten years in dogs when it first came out. FDA studies saying it works looked good to me but the arthritic cases bad enough to justify the cost did not impress the client like a shot of cortisone did. Have never heard why if it works so well there is no FDA adequan human label.
    Art

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  5. Anthro
    June 12, 2013

    Hopefully, this will reach the pet food companies (including “vet recommended” Science Diet) and they will stop marketing food with added supplements for arthritis/joint pain. I am so disgusted by this practice. You cannot find a dog food anymore that does NOT make some ridiculous and unsupported health claim.

    SkepVet, I hope you’ll get around to reading “Feed Your Pet Right” sometime. It’s the only sensible source I’ve found for pet food advice.

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    • skeptvet
      June 13, 2013

      Yes, the inclusion of such clearly worthless supplements as glucosamine in these diets is pure marketing triumphing over science.

      I have ordered the book, so hopefully I’ll get to reading it soon.

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  6. Art
    June 14, 2013

    There are randomized prospective studies using adequan as a arthritis prevention.

    38. Lust G, Williams AJ, BurtinWurster N, et al. Effects of intramuscular administration of glycosaminoglycans polysulfates on signs of incipient hip dysplasia in growing pups. Am J Vet Res 1992;53: 1836-1843.

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  7. v.t.
    June 14, 2013

    Thanks, skeptvet and Art, for your input on Adequan use in cats. I’ve seen a lot of (anecdotal) reports from vets and clients that it does seem to be helpful, for what it’s worth – is there perhaps a better safety margin rather than long-term use of metacam?

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  8. Art
    June 15, 2013

    V.T, I got this off the FDA website
    ” NO veterinary NSAIDs approved for long-term use in cats in US”
    Art

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  9. v.t.
    June 15, 2013

    Art, I understand the problems with NSAIDs of any type for use in cats, hence the off-label uses. Just wondering if the Adequan has a better safety margin than metacam (I know, so far, only anecdotal “evidence”).

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  10. Diane
    June 16, 2013

    Skeptvet, thank you for this invaluable site, which I stumbled across two days ago and can’t stop reading! A couple questions for you:
    –You have a lot of content throughout your site about different modalities for arthritis–would you consider consolidating your conclusions into a list like this article does? It’s SO helpful to see it succinctly laid out.
    –What are your thoughts on Hill’s j/d? My understanding is that it has been shown to improve clinical signs of arthritis, and that the primary active agent is very high EFA content.
    –Are you familiar with phycocyanin, an extract from the blue-green algae spirulina? The maker of “Phycox” (a supplement that contains it) says it is a COX-2 inhibitor and antioxidant. They have some publications on their site, http://www.phycox.com. I would be very interested in your opinion.
    Thank you!!

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    • skeptvet
      June 16, 2013

      Thanks for the comment. I have an article which collects my various posts on osteoarthritis under Veterinary Arthritis Treatments, so hopefully that will help a bit.

      There is a little bit of evidence to support some value to J/D, but it’s tricky because there are a lot of different ingredients in it, and it’s difficult to sort out what exactly might be helping or to account for possible complicating factors such as weight loss, more close monitoring and veterinary care, and other changes that often occur when a dog is in a clinical trial. There is some independent evidence for fish oils (though I think it’s still pretty weak), so that could plausibly be the component that is helpful. Certainly, the glucosamine in it isn’t going to be helpful. So it’s not unreasonable to try it, but I’d like to see more detailed and, ideally independent, research before I had great confidence in it as a treatment.

      I am not familiar wwith phycocyanin, so I’ll try to take a look at some point. Thanks for the suggestion.

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    • skeptvet
      June 24, 2013

      Diane,

      So I took a quick look at Phycox. It contains many different ingredients in addition to the phyocyanin (depending on which formula you use). Some are well-established to be useless (e.g. glucosamine), most haven’t been properly tested. The phycocyanin has been examined in lab animals and in vitro and modulates the expression of the genes that produce COX-2. It does NOT block COX-2 activity the way NSAID drugs do, so it is misleading to call it a COX-2 inhibitor. The effect, if any, of this gene regulation is unknown. It could potentially provide some clinical relief from arthritis pain, but it might not. I have not found a single clinical study in any species evaluating this as a treatment for arthritis, so all we have is a plausible potential mechanism and anecdotes.

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  11. Diane
    June 16, 2013

    Thanks for the insights and the pointer to your other article. I’m learning a lot from this site…the biggest eye-opener is how personal experience is not nearly as reliable as I’ve been considering it…

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  12. Art
    June 17, 2013

    J/D has a prospective study showing it works with purina dog chow as the placebo. They need to randomize the study better so those reporting cannot tell just by looking at the food which dogs got j/d and which dogs got purina.
    Art

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  13. Anthro
    July 8, 2013

    Sorry if I missed it, but what is J/D?

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  14. Anthro
    July 8, 2013

    Welcome Diane! You will love this blog and learn a lot from SkepVet. He’s a really wonderful writer who explains logic and its fallacies in a very readable way.

    You also might like:

    sciencebasedmedicine.org

    for the same approach to people!

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  15. v.t.
    July 8, 2013

    Anthro, J/D is Hills Prescription Diet J/D feline or canine food:

    http://www.hillspet.com/mobility/mobility-nutrition-canine.html

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  16. Shane Jakober, DVM
    August 25, 2015

    Intraarticular HA (e.g., Legend) is a mainstay of treatment for horses with OA. It works great intravenously, too. There is lots of evidence to demonstrate its analgesic and anti-inflammatory effects, used with or without corticosteroids. I’ve also used intramuscular PSGAGs (e.g., Adequan) with positive effects noted, though less impressive. Chondroitin and Glucosamine have been shown to improve objective measures of lameness (force-plate studies) in dogs. When combined with ASU, there is a synergistic effect (as in the Nutramax product for both horses and dogs). I’ve had incredible luck using essential fatty acid supplementation (fish oil) in my dog for moderate OA due to hip dysplasia. That alone had a better effect than a daily NSAID, not only ameliorating her grade 3/5 lameness (obvious at a trot in all conditions), but also improving her attitude and hip range of motion. And it avoids the side effects known of daily NSAID use. I know many DVMs who only perform acupuncture, and have many happy equine and canine patients with chronic pain conditions. I know most of what I am relating is anecdotal, but I chose all those therapies because they were evidence-based. I can’t believe that all you’ve based your recommendations is from a group of human orthopedic surgeons. There is a lot of evidence in the veterinary literature in support of therapies you condemn. And a lot of happy pets.

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  17. Jonos
    February 14, 2017

    I can only add a personal experience with Adequan ( I am RN, and no vet experience except for taking care of my own pets for 15+ years. I was very skeptical of Adequan when my vet suggested it. I researched it until there was nothing more to read. Then decided to give it a try on an overweight, arthritic, 11 year old Golden Ret. (post TPLO one year ago) In 3 week I have seen a very obvious positive change in her overall gait, decrease in pain (as evidenced by her increase and interest in activity) and all of this with little to no side effect (for about 12 hrs after the injection she is gassy, I can deal with that) We are going into wk 4 of loading does of 1.5 ml (100mg/ml) with high hopes that this improvement continues and can be sustained with injections continuing every 3 to 4 weeks as maintenance. Just wanted to give an actual experience which has been a very good one with Adequan.

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  18. MW
    November 4, 2018

    I just gave my cat her first injection of Adequan, 2 days ago. She’s already more active and not limping at all, like she used to. Last night, she was playing and romping with my other cat, something she hasn’t done in a long time. I realize it’s the first of many injections to come but so far it looks positive.

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    • skeptvet
      November 4, 2018

      I’m glad she is doing well, but I will tell you that based on how Adequan works in the body, you really wouldn’t be likely to see such an effect so quickly. I would be wary of the caregiver placebo effect in cats (and in dogs), in which we tend to see what we hope or expect to see in our pets.

      Good luck!

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      • MW
        November 4, 2018

        Thank you for your input ?

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  19. Michael Brown
    January 7, 2019

    Im have spent many years at different levels (BSc PHD) studying pharmacology and am always fascinated by the stories/ anecdotes that circulate . My daughter is a 3 Day Event Rider and is currently mounted on a very fit strong healthy horse with sound joints all around. Her trainer has everyone in the barn giving their horses Adequan twice yearly . Off course young girls dont want they ponies to get injured and neither do I obviously. I have read extensively about Adequan and once you weed through the company backed research there seems to be very few valid properly performed experiments reported . I can see that there is some (limited ) research showing IA injection into a site of damage showing more rapid repair of damage . If its pharmacology is as presented that makes a certain amount of sense but as a prophylactic in healthy horses it make no sense at all . It is huge in the horse business and ads cover every magazine complete with rock star level riders photos.
    Am I missing something. Everyone seems to swear by it but nobody can give me a definitive example of successful use scenario. It is impossible to prove it doesn’t work but as usual the onus is always on the nay sayer to back upthefre opinions.

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    • skeptvet
      January 9, 2019

      Yes, the desire to “ward off evil” is so strong, little evidence is required to convince people to try things with this goal. Here is the latest on Adequan from Dr. Ramey, a great equine vet with a scientific and skeptical bent.

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  20. art malernee
    March 4, 2019

    since we are all telling everyone what we think works I will testimonial that I think weight loss with mild routine exercise works best for dog osteoarthritis. Do we have any RCT in dogs to support? I would guess its easy to get a dog to exercise and eat less for a RCT. At least easier than then getting humans to do it.

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  21. art malernee dvm
    July 7, 2022

    https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-069722 .
    when do we stop saying this is new evidence? are there new good studies that show efficacy?
    would love to see someone write about the history of how the fda approved adequan. Did they use two RCTs and if so who did them. If not why not?

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  22. Micha
    September 4, 2023

    I’d really like to see an update to this subject, please.

    I recall they had Massage Therapy on their list at one point, as moderate evidence based, but in 2021, they changed it to limited evidence.

    However, I’m curious about massage therapy in general for any indicated issues with a moderate to strong evidence base. Such as possibly increasing circulation or blood flow to soft tissue injuries.

    Also, I recently read a paper comparing Steroid to Hyaluronic injects for arthritis control, and the latter was suggested to have resulted in similar to or equal pain relief to the former, but without the corrosive effects.

    This page references two studies reflecting this. https://www.rsna.org/www2/head

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    • skeptvet
      September 5, 2023

      There are a few more recent guidelines and evidence reviews from reputable organizations that mention massage, including AAOS (states evidence is “limited”), American College of Rheumatology (recommends against massage therapy), NICE (not enough evidence to support use along, can consider along with exercise), and RACGP (low quality evidence, may consider). The consensus seems to be little evidence of benefit, often listed as optional given low risks.

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