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  1. Russell
    January 27, 2020

    it seems crazy to cut off any organ unless absolutely necessary. why not push for Vasectomy or Ovary-sparing Spay to become standard procedure instead?

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    • skeptvet
      January 27, 2020

      Well, of course “it seems crazy” isn’t really a very compelling argument. What I let the dentist do to me every 6 months seems crazy too, unless you are aware of the evidence that it improves my long-term health.

      The issue is what are the risks and benefits of neutering that we can identify and demonstrate through reliable scientific evidence, and these are complicated. Neutered animals, for example, often live longer than intact animals. Some diseases are prevented by neutering. Pushing for procedures that do not remove the gonads only makes sense if we can show that this makes animals healthier, and so far the evidence doesn’t really support that as a universal truth. There are specific circumstances in which the benefits of neutering outweigh the risks, circumstances in which the risks outweigh the benefits, and situations in which the net effect is neutral. We should be focused on understanding the best choice in the context of each individual rather than thinking always neutering or never neutering is going to be the best approach for everyone.

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      • Sarah
        May 20, 2022

        Please could you advise? Vet says my well behaved male lab should be neutered asap for his health.I read your article and now wonder what is best? I have a spayed golden retriever who was done about 8 months and now I wonder whether I have increased her Cancer risk?
        Sarah

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      • skeptvet
        May 21, 2022

        As I’ve pointed out in my articles there is no single “right” or wrong answer, and all neutering does is shift the risk a little up or a little down for each individual condition. It doesn’t make bad or good things happen.

        in the case of a female dog, the overall risk of health problems, particularly serious ones like mammary cancer and uterine infection, is lower if they are neutered, so that is generally a good choice.

        For males, there is no apparent health advantage to being neutered or to being intact; they are pretty close to the same. Some problems happen Moree in neutered males, some happen more in intact males, but overall their health is about the same. It is not true that your male dog must be neutered right away for his health. There might be good reasons to neuter him, such as preventing him from chasing after females, but his health is not the issue.

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  2. Russell
    January 27, 2020

    it really should be a compelling argument. medical practitioners really shouldn’t dick around cutting bits off unless they have absolutely compelling evidence that it is absolutely necessary to do so.

    by the by, what your dentist does will seem even more crazy if you read Weston A. Price’s book “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” and see all the examples he catalogues comparing modern and primitive diets and the comparative state of their teeth. but i digress…

    if you asked medical professionals about the the risks and benefits of a Lobotomy 70-80 years ago i’m sure they could provide a very compelling argument for the continued use of the procedure. unfortunately the only true test of scientific evidence is time.

    so while we’re waiting for the final jury on this i’m personally going to avoid cutting any organs off my dog until there is compelling evidence that it is absolutely necessary.

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    • Chris
      May 2, 2023

      Primates didn’t eat processed diets either. We do. Humans have evolved as well. Then we have humans that are genetically predisposed to developing dental issues. It’s all not that easy.

      When going to the dentist we agree to have work done because the evidence shows that it’ll help whatever dental condition we suffer from. If you already have a hole in your enamel then you can’t just eat the diet of a primate and hope that you’ll be fine. It needs to be closed to prevent further damage. People have gotten brain infections due to rotten teeth.

      Not spaying/neutering an animal because you feel bad about cutting off their parts is not an argument. You need to look at the risk/benefit ratio. If someone told me I’m most likely to develop a cancer unless I have my balls cut off, and the evidence shows that, I’d most likely have it done to prolong my life. Unfortunately we can’t ask animals so we have to decide for them.

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  3. Russell
    January 27, 2020

    i just noticed you didn’t actually answer my original question. do you offer the option of Vasectomy or Ovary-sparing Spay to your patients? and if not, why not?

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    • skeptvet
      January 28, 2020

      You didn’t actually ask whether I offered the procedures. You asked “why not push for [them] to become standard procedure], and I did answer that question.

      I recommend either neutering or leaving the pet intact depending on the individual circumstances, and I discuss the risks and benefits of each option in detail with clients. I will do vasectomies if the owner wants that procedure, but it doesn’t really accomplish the goals of most owners who are considering neutering, so if they want to leave the dog intact I recommend leaving it intact and preventing access to females in heat. Only a few breeders who have intact females and males living together and who don’t feel confident they can prevent accidental breeding have found it worth doing.

      Hysterectomy without ovariectomy prevents pyometra, if done correctly, and pregnancy but not mammary cancer. I have yet to have any clients who want this procredure after understanding the options. Most either elect ovariectomy alone or leave the female intact for breeding.

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  4. Liz Ford
    February 1, 2020

    “I now tend to suggest that there are few medical benefits to neutering male dogs who don’t exhibit certain behavior problems, and these benefits may be offset by some risks in some breeds, especially larger breeds.”
    I’m interested in what you are referring to when you mention “certain behavior problems” and if there is evidence (research) you could share that speaks to that and your professional opinion on it. Thanks for the good article.

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    • skeptvet
      February 2, 2020

      There is some evidence that neutering reduces the incidence of some behavioral problems in male dogs, particularly inter dog aggression, urine marking, and roaming in search of females in estrus. If a dog exhibits these behaviors, neutering may be beneficial along with behavioral interventions.

      From my review_

      Most studies have found intact male dogs to be disproportionately involved in aggressive behavior, particularly interdog aggression.[46-47,51] Others have reported marked reductions in aggression and other problem behaviors in male dogs as an effect of castration. In one study, roaming behavior decreased 90%, aggression between males decreased 62%, urine marking decreased 50%, and mounting decreased 80% following castration[48], and several other studies have found similar results.[49,50,54] Some studies have also reported intact dogs to be more likely to bite humans than neutered animals.[51] One study of dog-bite related fatalities found the vast majority of these incidents involved male dogs and intact dogs.[222]

      46. Borchelt PL. Aggressive behavior of dogs kept as companion animals: classification and influence of sex, reproductive status, and breed. Applied Animal Ethology 1983;10:45-61.

      47. Write JC, Nesselrote MS. Classification of behavioral problems in dogs: distributions of age, breed, sex, and reproductive status. Applied Animal Behavior Science 1987;19:169-78.

      48. Hopkins SG, Schubert TA, Hart BL. Castration of adult male dogs: effects on roaming, aggression urine spraying, and mounting. Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association 1976;168:1108-10.

      49. Maarschalkerweerd RJ, Endenburg N, Kirpensteijn J, Knol BW. Influence of orchiectomy on canine behaviour. Veterinary Record 1997;140(24):617-69.

      50. Neilson JC, Eckstein RA, Hart BL. Effects of castration on problem behaviors in male dogs with reference to age and duration of behavior. Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association 1997;211(2):180-82.

      51. Gershman KA, Sacks JJ, Wright JC. Which dogs bite? A case-control study of risk factors. Pediatrics 1994;93(6 Pt 1):913-7.

      54. Knol BW, Egberink-Alink ST. Treatment of problem behaviour in dogs and cats by castration and progestagen administration: a review. Veterinary Quarterly 1989;11(2):102-7.

      222. Patronek GJ, Sacks JJ, Delise KM, Cleary DV, Marder AR. Co-occurrence of potentially preventable factors in 256 dog bite-related fatalities in the United States (2000-2009). J Am Vet Med Assoc 2013 Dec 15;243(12):1726-36.

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  5. Jo W
    February 4, 2020

    Thanks for highlighting this issue again.
    I’ve been driving myself bonkers trying to work out the best time to get our young greyhound spayed, reading more and more papers, driving myself bonkers, again.
    It is reassuring that the scientists in the room reiterate it is a complex decision.

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  6. John Stuckey
    February 6, 2020

    Sorry, but I’m with Russell on this. Pardon my oversimplification, but it seems the takeaway from your article is that neutering “may” be beneficial for small breeds, “may” be detrimental for large breeds, “may” have an effect on certain behaviors. The lack of definitive evidence of predictable outcomes tells me not to surgically alter until such knowledge is available. I don’t go to the dentist and have all my teeth extracted to prevent caries. BTW-I was reading the rather detailed and professional surgeon’s log from the shelter paperwork on our most recent rescue and was surprised to see that a tubal ligation was performed instead of a hysterectomy. Is this common practice? I would assume in this context that the motive would be saving time rather than long term health of the animal.

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    • skeptvet
      February 6, 2020

      I don’t believe you’ve interpreted the article correctly, and you appear to desire a level of certainty that will never be achieved in a domain as complex as biology. Neutering is absolutely beneficial in several clear and important ways, including preventing pyometra and mammary cancer in all females, reducing the risk of unintended reproduction, which not only leads to euthanasia of unwanted animals but to serious medical harm to brachycephalic breeds when they develop dystocia, and in many other ways. There are clear, unquestionable benefits. When the benefits outweigh the risks is a calculation that requires looking at the totality of the individual circumstances, including age, breed, procedure, and so on. There is always some level of uncertainty, but if your answer is never to neuter until you have absolute certainty, you will be rejecting all the benefits, but clearly established and potential, as well as any risks. That is not how the best medical decisions are made.

      Tubal ligation makes little sense. It prevents pregnancy, but it allows pyometra and mammary cancer to develop, which are common and serious diseases. Ovariectomy is the most common procedure, followed by ovariohysterectomy. Hysterectomy alone is done to prevent both breeding and pyometra, though it does. not prevent mammary cancer. As for time, an ovariectomy takes an experienced surgeon less than 10 minutes, and a tubal ligation would likely take about the same since the bulk of the time is spent closing the abdominal incision, which is the same for both, and a difference of a few minutes certainly has no benefit for the patient, so doing the procedure to save the doctor time is both unlikely to be worthwhile and, arguably, unethical.

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  7. Natalie Perzylo
    February 6, 2020

    The issue with neutering/spaying is….
    1) people see you differently if you DONT do this operation
    2) vets pressure owners to do this operation for pups as young as 10 weeks old
    3) and the most important point is— if we neuter/spay all the good dogs then what are we left with?

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    • skeptvet
      February 8, 2020

      1) This is true, but of course irrelevant to the risks and benefits for your pet.
      2) Sometimes true, but often not true. There are as many different opinions and approaches regarding neutering among vets as among pet owners. And vets will advocate for what they think is best for your pet because that is their responsibility.
      3) This is a bit of a reductio ad absurdum argument. No one issue talking about neutering “all the good dogs,” and despite the vast majority of pets in the U.S. being neutered for decades, we not only still have “good dogs,” we still have a problem of unwanted pets and overbreeding, so there is no reasonable argument against breeding on the basis of negative effects on the number or quality of available pets.

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  8. Buddy
    February 23, 2020

    Thank you for this, and for your thoughtful responses. We did not have a choice in the matter with our mixed breed rescue. The majority of interdog interaction issues we’ve had have been with intact animals, particularly with intact males. Our city now requires all dogs over 18 months visiting the dog park to be spayed or neutered.

    I generally don’t agree with the decision to leave a dog intact but also recognize the nuance and that the owner has a choice- I just don’t appreciate it when they continue to bring the dog to dog parks. It’s been my personal experience (not scientifically proven but I’d be curious if there’s any evidence) that almost every time we have an issue with an intact male, the owner is male and vigorously defends his decision.

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  9. Katie McKay
    April 30, 2020

    Thank for the update on the data being collected from this complex debate. I was wondering if you had recommendations for rescues on the age of spaying and neutering. We like to assure that this is completed before they leave the control of the rescue, but often get puppies who are <1 year. The original data seemed to suggest that 12 weeks was a good compromise and we tend to wait longer if there are other medical issues with the puppy, but in general I was wondering if you had a recommendation. We are a golden retriever rescue but take in many mixes as well.

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    • skeptvet
      May 2, 2020

      Some of the answer depends on the goals. Early neutering is common in rescue situations because the priority is reducing unintended reproduction and unwanted animals. Neutering before adoption serves this goal, but there is some evidence it may lead to an increased risk of some health problems in larger breed dogs. Balancing those competing priorities is a judgment call. If owners can be trusted to neuter at the appropriate time after adoption, waiting may be reasonable. If there is real concern that dogs adopted intact won’t get neutered at all, though, it may be better to neuter before adoption even if that is earlier than otherwise optimal.

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  10. Vince
    July 27, 2020

    Most of the research on sex hormones (i.e. testosterone, progesterone, and estrogen) concentrates on its role is reproduction. This makes sense as they play a crucial role in reproduction. However, these hormones are also important signals in other important systems in the body such as the system of energy metabolism. Progesterone and testosterone are protective hormones that enable cells to function optimally.

    With this perspective, the newer studies showing benefits of delaying the removal of the organs that produce the bulk of these protective hormones should not be a surprise.

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    • skeptvet
      July 28, 2020

      It is an oversimplification to call these hormones “protective” or to suggest they promote “optimal” functioning. Longer exposure to them may protect agains some diseases (e.g. prostate cancer, urinary incontinence, some cancers in predisposed dogs), but this also increases the risk of other diseases (mammary cancer in females, prostatitis in males, etc.). The idea that the intact state is somehow optimal is a misconception that interferes with evidence-based decisions about when to neuter.

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  11. Tamera Cole Stenson
    July 31, 2020

    Hi,
    Prostate cancer is increased in neutered males.

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  12. Rick
    August 20, 2020

    Thank you for the article – it was very informative. We have recently rehomed a nine year old female lab. She is in very good health but has not been desexed.

    I understand that there are some health benefits associated with neutering the dog. However I am worried about the impact on having such an intrusive operation on an older dog.

    Your advice on this matter would be appreciated.

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    • skeptvet
      August 20, 2020

      Hello,

      If your dog is otherwise healthy, I would strongly encourage neutering her. The risk of life-threatening uterine infections is quite high after 8 years of age. There is also some risk of mammary cancer, but it is likely too late for neutering to protect much against that.

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  13. Maddie
    September 13, 2020

    Can you speak at all to the effects of coat growth and quality in regards to neutering dogs earlier/later in life? I’m a new dog groomer and see it claimed often that undercoat is more profuse or hair texture is less desirable in dogs who have been neutered early vs later or neutered at all.

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    • skeptvet
      September 14, 2020

      There is evidence showing changes in hair growth and coat quality with neutering. Whether these changes make the coat “less desirable” is, of course, an aesthetic judgement. I am not aware of any studies looking specifically at age of neutering and the effect on coat.

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  14. Vince
    October 2, 2020

    “Over the last decade, it has become apparent that performing a gonadectomy (spaying or neutering) has unanticipated health implications. Specifically, gonadectomies and the age at which they are performed have been linked to the incidence of many cancers, orthopedic conditions, other medical conditions, and behavioural issues.”
    https://fall2018.iaabcjournal.org/2018/10/31/spay-and-neuter-surgery-effects-on-dogs/

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    • skeptvet
      October 2, 2020

      To be fair, the issue is very complex, and while neutering raises the risk of some diseases, it lowers the risk of others and has a negligible effect on many. The most recent study, for example, finds little to no effect of neutering on cancer and orthopedic disease for small breed dogs, and unpredictable differences in the effects between breeds and sexes. No simple universal answers are likely to be coming.

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  15. Costas
    January 5, 2021

    Hello from Greece. Congratulations on your great post and in general, I admire both the unbiased and evidence-oriented approach you follow. I have a medium-breed ‘Briquet Griffon Vendéen” friend (found it dumped in the streets when he was a couple months old and now is about 2 years old approximately). My friend is intact at the moment. I face the dilemma of how beneficiary it would be for him, to be neutered. Everybody keeps talking about only the pros of this action, but lacking the knowledge myself, I found it frustrating that nobody shows evidence of their saying. “It is known”, is not my favorite quote to hear. I kept digging in the Web in pursue of evidence of how beneficiary is indeed this operation for my friend and thankfully I found your post which sticks to the facts. Unfortunately, my buddy’s breed is not included in the latest research you posted. So, I am still troubled about what should I do. I understand that there is no “go for it right now/avoid it at all costs” answer but I would really like to hear what would you advise me to do? Also, if there are any references that you are aware and would like to share, that could help me make the best choice for my friend’s life. Thank you so much and wish you a happy new year.

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    • skeptvet
      January 5, 2021

      Here is a pretty thorough review of the literature up to a few years ago. More recent studies are often discussed in other posts. The bottom line is that there is no demonstrated health benefit for male dogs to being neutered. Benefits may include less unintended reproduction and unwanted dogs, less aggression between dogs (but if your dog doesn’t have that tendency in the first place, this isn’t relevant), less running around after females in heat, and others, but none of these are specific to the health of the dog himself. Neutered and intact dogs have slightly different medical issues, but on balance they are about the same in terms of overall health and life expectancy. Hope this helps.

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      • Costas
        January 5, 2021

        Thank for your detailed answer. Of course, the crucial point for my decision is wether it expands it’s longevity, or not. I want to expand it as long as I can. I read the whole research referenced and it seems that in general lifespan is affected positively. However, this is not always the case and is correlated with the breed.

        As far as my friend, he initially was really kind and playful with all people and dogs (he never liked cats though even if they never done him any harm) but I observed that he eventually started to adopt behavior’s habbits from other dogs he was hanging out with. E.g. he hung out with a Greek Shepherd who was more aggressive against humans and other male dogs, which resulted in him being more aggressive with some dogs he used to play with (almost no difference in his behavior against humans). Maturity is another factor that may changed his behavior too. So, yes he has most of the habbits you include in your answer, but not in such rates that I would neuter him just for his behavior. But if there are benefits that affect both his behavior and longevity, then I am more positive with the idea. I will continue my quest to find more specific data (if any) for his breed, but nonetheless these resources are really valuable. Thank you once again for helping and sharing.

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  16. Jess
    August 16, 2021

    Apologies, this is a very specific question, but if we disregard all the other medical reasons and look purely at behavioural, is there any paper which specifically addresses changes in behaviour if you neuter a male dog at ~6 months as opposed to 1 year? Our 8 month old is starting to get quite fiesty and teenagery and I wonder if this is just normal development or if we’ve exasperated the situation due to the fact he’s intact. We waited due to finding that, health wise, there’s no specific benefit for cocker spaniels and because he’s a bit submissive/nervous around other dogs so we were hoping he’d get braver with a bit of testosterone, but it seems he’s just getting a bit cheeky with us

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    • skeptvet
      August 16, 2021

      Unfortunately, there is no clear answer to your question in the scientific literature. Some studies do show positive changes in behavior in male dogs with neutering, including reduction in aggression, but there are also studies that show not much if any change, and even some research showing neutering might make dogs more aggressive.

      Behavior is complex, and neutering is just one variable. Environment, breed, individual temperament, training and the behavior of people and humans, and many other factors influence how dogs behave, so isolating neutering as a factor is pretty hard to do, and it likely isn’t going to make a huge change by itself for most dogs. It is possible that neutering might influence the behaviors you are seeing, but that depends a lot on the details of the situation, and I suspect you would get a lot more benefit from a consultation with a veterinary behaviorist and a program of behavior modification.

      Good luck!

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  17. Bettie
    August 20, 2021

    Yet another person asking you a specific question, sorry! I have a four month old boxer/pitbull mix (atleast this is what they told me.) I have worked at various animal organizations and am educated with animal welfare. That being said and as you have so eloquently reiterated over and over each dog and situation is different. I have had dogs that were neutered early that didn’t appear to “muscle up” as much as their breed would generally. The also appeared to have longer back legs than others. I have looked at a chart from a medical publication but it did not include pits. It did say that you should hold off until two years old for boxers. No, I don’t plan on doing any kind of organized sport with him. I do have an older female shepherd that doesn’t need anyone jumping on her back with her typical shepherd hips. He hasn’t started any unwanted behaviors yet as in aggression, humping or marking nor do I want him to. Some of the information you have said regards small dogs versus large dogs. There are people that would say a boxer is a large dog. To me, one is far from it! A Tosa, any of the mastiffs, any of the wolfhounds; those are what I consider large dogs. Now with my incredible amount of rambling I’m trying to give you all the information you need to answer my obvious question: when should I neuter my guy to get the most health and maturity benefits with any extra risks or “unwanted male behavior?” Thank you in advance!

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    • skeptvet
      August 20, 2021

      The relationship between neutering and behavior is pretty tenuous and complicated, so I don’t think we can say with confidence that doing so will prevent or resolve specific behaviors in individual dogs. I’ve had make dogs neutered at 3 months with dog aggression and humping behaviors, and I’ve seen intact male dogs who were tractable and loved everybody and everything! In general, it isn’t unreasonable to consider neutering ALONG WITH behavior modification if inter dog aggression or mounting behavior develops in an intact male, but I don’t think global neutering “just in case” makes a lot of sense.

      From the point of view of the research on neutering, a boxer/pitbull would be a large dog, likely to be over 50lbs and to have growth-plate closure at 12 months or later. There probably would be some benefits in terms of orthopedic disease (such as cruciate ligament rupture) in deleting neutering until after full growth. From the limited perspective of individual health, there is no clear advantage to being neutered or intact in males, just a slightly different risk profile. I am neutral on neutering male dogs, though I always point out that choosing not to means taking on the responsibility of preventing unwanted reproduction. If you choose to neuter, a reasonable compromise would probably be after full growth (about 12-14months of age), but again neutering is just one of many, many variables that influence each specific health risk, so there is no indisputable right or wrong answer.

      Good luck!

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  18. JP
    October 4, 2021

    I am wondering what you would suggest for a Miniature American Shepherd with a recessed vulva. Our vet told us the possibility of the recessed vulva correcting itself after going through one heat cycle is possible; however, it is by no means guaranteed. She has no history of a UTI, though excessive licking does occur, she pees frequently even for a puppy, and I would not be surprised if she had on later in life. Should I let her go through one heat cycle, or just have her spayed? I currently have a ovariectomy scheduled for when she is 8.5 months old, but I am having second thoughts. Any advice/insight is much appreciated!

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    • skeptvet
      October 6, 2021

      I would agree that a heat cycle isn’t likely to dramatically alter her vulvar conformation. This frequently worsens with age, especially if the dog becomes overweight. I would not make a significant change in hour neutering plans based just on this possibility.

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  19. Andrea
    February 16, 2022

    Thank you for the review! I’ve been having a hard time wrapping my head around getting my female cockapoo fixed at 6 months. It may seem unnatural to remove these organs so early, but it’s also unnatural for a female dog to remain intact and never have puppies too. Both of these must have impacts on long term health. The evidence about mammary cancer is solid and is what is pushing me to get her fixed on the sooner end.

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