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  1. Kathryn
    February 28, 2021

    Can you comment on T-Relief? The bottle says homeopathic, but lists actual dosages of the ingredients.

    Needless to say, I took my cat off it when I found out what it was and dumped my vet when told “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” when i called her on the homeopathy part.

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    • skeptvet
      February 28, 2021

      Looks like the ingredients are listed with a “x-factor” in front of them, which is a way of referring to homeopathic dilution. These are mostly low-potency (i.e. not very diluted) ingredients (3x, for example, means diluted by a factor of 10 three times), so there is some chance of some residual chemicals in the final product, though likely not enough to do much, for good or ill.

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  2. Jazzlet
    March 3, 2021

    I’d go further than you and say that witholding effective NSAIDs for ineffective alternatives is cruel. But I’ve had two dogs who were kept mobile and happy with an NSAID, both of whom would have had to be put down years earlier without that effective pain control, so I am definitely in favour of the use of NSAIDs when appropriate – anecdotal obviously.

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  3. M A
    March 4, 2021

    Fear is the most powerful weapon, once instilled near impossible to remove. It is tragic that members of vet proffession use their credentials to spread it, resulting in scores of pets living in pain. These people are not real vets IMO. They should be called for their actions

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  4. Jen Robinson
    March 9, 2021

    I’m on an NSAID for arthritis of the hip myself. (Helps, but hardly a miracle). The doc prescribed omeprazole to counter possible side effects. Is the equivalent available for dogs?

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    • skeptvet
      March 9, 2021

      Omeprazole can be used in dogs and does raise gastric pH (unlike famotidine, which works in humans but not much in dogs). However, it is unclear if this is useful for preventing gastric ulcers from NSAID use, which is related to blood flow in the stomach rather than acidity of stomach contents. Here is the statement on this issue from the expert consensus guideline on gastroprotectants:

      It is common to prescribe PPIs in patients at risk for upper GI injury from nonsteroidal anti?inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), but PPIs can alter the SI microbiome, increasing the risk of injury to the intestinal epithelium caused by NSAIDs. This effect is acid?independent and unrelated to gastric mucosa injury caused by NSAIDs. Inhibition of intestinal cyclooxygenase 1 and 2 (COX?1, COX?2) enzymes injures the SI mucosa. Enterohepatic recycling of NSAIDs likely plays a role whereby high concentrations of NSAIDs in bile are secreted into the duodenum in close proximity to the major duodenal papilla. Some of the most serious intestinal lesions in dogs caused by NSAIDs occur in this region.10, 95, 96 Small intestinal injury may be caused by increased numbers of gram?negative facultative anaerobic bacteria that flourish in the SI of patients treated with PPIs. Lesions are characterized by loss of villi, erosions, and multifocal ulcers distributed throughout the small bowel. Anemia also may occur. Whereas some bacteria play a protective role against intestinal mucosal injury by NSAIDs, the intestinal dysbiosis arising from PPI administration increases the risk of NSAID?induced intestinal injury.94 Administration of antibiotics or probiotics may mitigate injuries caused by this drug combination,94 but such studies have not been conducted in dogs or cats.

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  5. Danny
    March 17, 2021

    My senior rescue dog has hip dysplasia, arthritis, and a hyperextended tendon, for which he has had two surgeries in the little more than a year that I’ve had him. I suspect that he was hit by a car years ago. He currently takes Metacam. Due to the current shortage of Metacam, my primary care vet has recommended Galliprant. It seems promising, from what I’ve read so far on this new medication. What are your thoughts on Metacam v. Galliprant? Thanks for your help!

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    • skeptvet
      March 18, 2021

      Meloxicam (Metacam) is a well-established traditional NSAID with lots of published data on safety and efficacy. There are. both risks and benefits, as with all treatments but, dosed and monitored properly,in most dogs it works well. Grapriprant (Galliprant) is a new NSAID with a different mechanism of action. There is clinical trial evidence showing good safety and efficacy, but the amount of research is fairly limited as it is a new drug. It is FDA licensed for use in dogs. I have used both often and both seem to work well and have limited adverse effects, but the overall evidence is less robust for Galliprant since it has not been around as long. I think both are reasonable choices in your situation, with the usual need for monitoring.

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      • Richard Reeleder
        December 27, 2021

        We have a 13 yr old mixed breed dog with moderate back and rear leg arthritis that has been on a low dose of metacam for 4-5 years now. Seemed to help quite a bit, but we’ve now added 1/2 tab galliprant for past 2 yrs and that combination appears to provide better pain control.

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  6. Lisa
    April 13, 2021

    Our vet took our greyhound off Metacam a few months ago following GI issues that led to a presumptive diagnosis of IBD (ultrasound, but no biopsy as yet). She struggles with pain and reduced mobility (no surprise given her background – still racing at 7 and she turns 10 tomorrow) so has been put on gabapentin, amantadine and paracetamol (also still on omeprazole). Having read this piece and the gabapentin article I am left wondering how we can best help her. I know our vet wants to control pain as much as possible, and reluctantly stopped the metacam on advice from an internal medicine colleague, but I am wondering whether I should be discussing the current prescriptions with her? It seems as though there isn’t a lot else that does have solid evidence of being effective, but that isn’t a good reason for giving Velvet drugs that are maybe not helping in the way we hope (I find it very hard to tell!). Not expecting a solution, but would be interested in your thoughts 🙂

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    • skeptvet
      April 16, 2021

      Definitely, a tough situation. IBD, and more importantly the medications she will likely need if this is confirmed are reasonable justification for stopping NSAIDs, so I don’t think it wrong to do so. The evidence for gabapentin and amantidine is poor, which doesn’t mean they don’t work, just that we haven’t tested them well enough to know for sure. acetaminophen probably is helpful, though it has be dose very carefully since the dosing range is very narrow. The most important thing is whether you feel like her discomfort is meaningfully affective her quality of life, and then balancing that against the risks and uncertainties of the treatment options. We often try things with poor evidence in tough situations (e.g. fish oil, CBD), and that’s not inappropriate so long as we think carefully about the uncertainties and potential risks and benefits.

      As you say, I can’t give you an answer, but I would definitely keep talking to your vet about the level of discomfort you see and the options for treatment. It is sometimes helpful to assess her symptoms in a regular and consistent way to evaluate when therapies are or are not helping. Here are some tools you could use to do this.

      Good Luck!

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  7. Lizzie
    September 28, 2021

    My 10-yr old corgi is an orthopedic nightmare: arthritis in shoulders and elbows, calcified disc (?), hip dysplasia, prior CCL rupture, current (opposite) CCL tear. He seems to respond poorly (vomiting) to Carprofen; is there another NSAID we should try?

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    • skeptvet
      October 3, 2021

      There is no consistent pattern of one NSAID being better than another, but each dog may respond differently to various drugs, so it is always worth trying something else. I would ask your vet for suggestions.

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  8. John Lehmann
    December 4, 2023

    First huge props on your website and analysies. You are a real scientist. I’m speaking as a former pharmacologist in drug discovery and medical school faculty.
    My 12 yo border collie has received oral glucosamine/chondroitin since 6 months old, and fish oil, He has been on Galiprant for 2 years. Appetite is suppressed (well treated with omeprazole as needed) and diarrhea (well treated with white rice and Activia yogurt). His arthritis is bad enough that probably his end will be because the pain is unbearablee; GI risks are acceptable.
    I am not considering replacing Galiprant grapiprant but seek add on meds, possibly acute use analgesics. He is on his gun lap. Suggestions?
    Again thanks for your outstanding website.

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    • skeptvet
      December 4, 2023

      I can’t offer advice for specific patients online, for obvious reasons, but I would consider seeing if there is a rehabilitation (vet speak for “physical therapy”) specialist near you. The field is not as evidence-based yet s in human PT, but because of the value it has for people I think it reasonable to consider for dogs. You might also find some information to discuss with your vet about additional options in the AAHA Pain Management Guidelines.

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