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  1. L
    May 3, 2021

    Please don’t tell me that Gabapentin is not helping to keep my old dog comfortable *sigh*

    It’s rather expensive, plus all the eyedrops $$$ to try to keep her eye pressure (due to glaucoma) down in an attempt to avoid enucleation.

    It appears to be helping her along with a little Trazodone. Appetite good, no signs or symptoms of discomfort observed.

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    • skeptvet
      May 3, 2021

      I’m not say9ing it doesn’t help, only that the evidence is weak and some things we have used in the past based on similar evidence later turned out not to work. I think we don’t know if it is helpful, and we won’t until we have better studies. It is very safe, and it shouldn’t be that expensive since it is generic, so you might look for another source?

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  2. L
    May 3, 2021

    If you need a low dose , compounded, it runs about a dollar a pill, it adds up.

    Thanks, for your response.

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  3. art malernee
    May 7, 2021

    dog came in yesterday for a second opinion on gabapentin scheduled for the first of two 7000 thousand dollar cruciate surgeries. Suspect the surgeon did not want to use nsaids before surgery. Seems like we get forced into trying treatment even if RCT studies do not support.

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  4. Khalid
    May 7, 2021

    Thanks for the post, informative as always, and which was timely in our case…
    I’ll add to the anecdotal evidence.

    Our cat gradually reached to a point where he couldn’t eat anything anymore, except for a type of soft crunchy treat.
    He was given Meloxicam and I believe an opioid for over a couple weeks before and after extracting a few of his teeth (which were thought to be causing him problems). He kept doing his best “trying” to eat, but just ended up causing a mess and managing to eat extremely little.
    The vets decided to try gabapentin, and it worked instantly. He’s been on it for several months now and doing well. We’ve tried to figure out how much of the stuff works. This has come down from 0.3 ml twice a day (every 12 hours) to 0.2 ml.

    If we reduce or skip a couple doses it gets difficult for him to really eat (chew / swallow) soft food. Later it gets difficult to eat kibble.

    It seems he’s got some kind of musculoskeletal jaw pain, or facial pain…
    The problem was foreshadowed several months earlier when he could only suck the juice out of his favorite tuna wet food, and would barely touch any of the fish. Interestingly he continued to eat the rock-like kibble he used to eat on a daily basis until I guess the pain was just too much to bear…

    Thanks again.

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  5. Jen Robinson
    May 11, 2021

    I myself take gabapentin for arthritis and have for almost 10 years. It’s useless as an analgesic (for me anyway) but works well as a sedative taken before bedtime. No side effects other than drowsiness.
    I’ve had it prescribed for a dog and can’t say as it did anything.
    As a human medicine, it’s cheap…at least if you are on Medicare or in many countries with national health plans. (In NZ I’m paying < 10¢ a day).
    Is this another case where the drug raise the price for pet medicines?

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    • skeptvet
      May 11, 2021

      It’s available as generic, and there is no approved animal version, so the price shouldn’t be different from human pharmacies, though online sources and individual veterinarians will have variable markups on drugs they stock and sell themselves.

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  6. L
    May 11, 2021

    If you need a low dose it has to be prepared by a “compounding” pharmacy (veterinary) hence the higher price.

    It averages $1 a for a 25 mg pill for my dog, dog gets 2 pills per day.

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  7. L
    May 11, 2021

    I used Wedgewood Pharmacy as per my vet’s recommendation. Angell (Boston) prices were comparable.

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  8. AJ
    May 12, 2021

    Wow. Very interesting. We’ve had gabapentin prescribed for every type of pain you can imagine for the cats in our rescue. I have quite a bit stocked up. Post-FHO pain, post-bladder blockage pain, etc. I hope we will know more in the future… I would hate to think we’re dosing these animals without any benefit to them. Perhaps confusing their sedation with an absence or reduction in pain?

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  9. Szandra
    May 13, 2021

    Our 10 year old Sheltie, has been on Gabapentin for the last month. He seems ‘better’, but as I’ve learnt from this blog, it’s hard to know without an objective measurement. When I asked our vet if Meloxicam could be tried, she mentioned that his ALT level was 112 (from what they explained slightly elevated).

    Due that number on his bloodwork, she suggested Gabapentin, until his numbers come down.

    Is there an objective test name I can ask my vet to perform? Or would it perhaps be more fruitful to reexamine Meloxicam?

    Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Szandra

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    • skeptvet
      May 14, 2021

      A mild ALT elevation is not a reason to avoid NSAIDs. If it is persistent or progressive, then an attempt should be made to figure out where it is coming from. If no cause is found, then I would not avoid good pain control like NSAIDs just because of this lab value, I would simply monitor it closely. Definitely a conversation worth having with your vet since it is unclear how helpful gabapentin is for arthritis pain.

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  10. Szandra
    May 14, 2021

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I look forward to bringing this up to my vet in a few weeks.

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  11. Mari
    June 21, 2021

    Is there anything else to bring up to the vet or orthopedic to try instead of gabapentin? We’ve been giving our dog gabapentin and meloxicam along with some shot once every two weeks for his arthritis and deformed front paw. The medication works now, but sometimes he still looks like he’s in pain so if there’s anything else we could try that anyone could recommend mentioning to our vet I’d appreciate it. So far all they mention is gabapentin and meloxicam so…

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    • skeptvet
      June 21, 2021

      Unfortunately, there is little reliable evidence for most oral analgesics other than NSAIDs in dogs. Codein is sometimes used, though it has poor absorption and can lose effectiveness over time; acetaminophen can be helpful but has a very narrow range of safe dosing and can be a problem with other anti-inflammatories, tramadol probably doesn’t work, most supplements are untested or probably don’t work, etc. Physical therapy is quite helpful fo humans and we suspect it will be for dogs, though there isn’t much research yet, so you might ask about a rehab/physical therapy program. Lots on the blog about massage, acupuncture, laser, etc.,m and none are very impressive. I would consider seeing a rehab specialists.

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  12. Wade
    July 9, 2021

    My cat is currently on transmucosal buprenorphine for his pain and it is such a hassle!

    I was very surprised when my vet told me there were few take-home treatments for severe chronic pain in pets… My cat is good with pills but hates the oral syringe. Do most human pain medications not work in pets or is it just a lack of studies? Do you know if researchers are looking in to better treatments for chronic pain in cats?

    Thanks!

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    • skeptvet
      July 10, 2021

      That’s unusual, since this is typically one of the easiest and best-accepted medicines in cats.

      oat companies don’t specifically test their drugs in pets because the potential profit isn’t enough to justify the expense. We routinely use human drugs off-label, but with too little evidence (which is why they sometimes turn out not to work, as with tramadol). Vet Med is a severe resource and evidence-poor field. 🙁

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  13. Wade
    July 11, 2021

    Yes my vet said that as well, most cats take it quite easily… but his claws come out and I’ve never seen him as angry as when he gets his medicine.

    This is a bit off-topic, but do you think resources allocated to veterinary medicine are increasing as people are willing to spend more on their pets?

    Considering Cytopoint for example, I think the idea of a commercial monoclonal antibody being easily and (relatively) cheaply available for dogs would have been unimaginable 10 years ago. Although this may speak more to improved manufacturing of biologics rather than larger investments in veterinary medicine.

    (I’m a pharmaceutical chemist but am not in the loop at all with regards to veterinary therapeutics)

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    • skeptvet
      July 12, 2021

      There is certainly growth in the animal Pharma industry. Unfortunately, there is excessive concentration on a few lucrative indications (e.g. parasite prevention, NSAIDs), so we have more drugs than we need for those and none for many other common or important indications. Overall, it’s a tiny market from a Pharma perspective, so we’re stuck with off-label human drugs most of the time.

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  14. Leslie
    September 1, 2022

    Ugh. My 15 year old cat was prescribed gabapentin for her arthritis and even though I knew about this page and the lack of clinical evidence, I tried it. I wanted to trust the vet and the anecdotal reports I’ve heard online of people’s elderly arthritic cats becoming more mobile because of gabapentin.
    Unfortunately even though she was supposed to be on a low dose, there were several times that she was sedated off it. I tried to trust that she would get used to it so I kept it going for a few weeks until one night where she was sedated even though I had given her a smaller dose than I was supposed to (1/6 of a tablet instead of 1/4). I was like nope, this is not worth it. She is not enjoying herself, it looks like she is drunk and wants it to stop. So I stopped giving it to her and she’s back to her perky, purry self. I have no idea if she is in pain from her arthritis, her mobility is certainly low, but I’d rather have her bright eyed and responsive. I hope it hasn’t done her any damage, she is fifteen and also has cancer so who knows.
    Also, last night she played with her lazer pointer for the first time in forever! It’s hard to do nothing but sometimes nothing is better than over treatment.

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